{"id":30451,"date":"2019-09-23T15:47:52","date_gmt":"2019-09-23T21:47:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/affirmation.org\/?p=30451"},"modified":"2021-10-03T16:38:27","modified_gmt":"2021-10-03T22:38:27","slug":"my-full-huffington-post-interview-following-president-nelsons-byu-devotional","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/affirmation.org\/pt\/my-full-huffington-post-entrevista-seguinte-presidente-nelsons-byu-devocional\/","title":{"rendered":"Minha entrevista completa no Huffington Post ap\u00f3s o devocional da BYU do Presidente Nelson"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-30457\" src=\"https:\/\/affirmation.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/HuffPost-Kitchen-Response-to-Nelson-BYU-Devotional.jpg\" alt=\"Resposta do HuffPost Kitchen ao Devocional Nelson BYU\" width=\"1200\" height=\"630\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>por Nathan Kitchen<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Voc\u00ea deve ter lido recentemente um artigo do Huffington Post em que fui entrevistado em resposta a <a href=\"https:\/\/speeches.byu.edu\/talks\/russell-m-nelson\/love-laws-god\/\">Devocional da BYU do Presidente Nelson<\/a>. O artigo \u00e9 intitulado <a href=\"https:\/\/www.huffpost.com\/entry\/mormon-church-lgbq-policy-love_n_5d823b52e4b0849d4721ba88\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>M\u00f3rmons Queer: A Pol\u00edtica de Exclus\u00e3o da Igreja n\u00e3o parecia &#039;amor&#039;<\/em><\/a>. Para aqueles que est\u00e3o interessados em dar uma olhada nos \u201cbastidores\u201d do que realmente se transforma em uma not\u00edcia de uma entrevista, eu gostaria de compartilhar minha entrevista completa com o Huffington Post.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Huffington Post: <\/strong>O que voc\u00ea acha dos coment\u00e1rios do presidente Nelson sobre as pol\u00edticas de 2015 e 2019 - especialmente seu coment\u00e1rio de que as mudan\u00e7as foram motivadas pelo amor?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Eu:<\/strong>\u00a0 Na semana da pol\u00edtica de 5 de novembro de 2015, reuni meus filhos mais novos ao meu redor e expliquei a pol\u00edtica. Pela primeira vez na vida, meus filhos se sentiram exclu\u00eddos da igreja. Era confuso e esmagador. L\u00e1grimas escorreram pelo meu rosto quando meu filho mais novo exclamou: &quot;Por que eles querem fazer isso conosco?&quot;<\/p>\n<p>N\u00e3o sei muitas coisas nesta vida, mas tendo vivido aquele momento, sei que n\u00e3o era amor. Eu o reconhe\u00e7o como muitas outras coisas, mas n\u00e3o o reconhe\u00e7o como amor.<\/p>\n<p>N\u00e3o tenho d\u00favidas de que o Presidente Nelson tem uma garantia sincera de que a norma foi dada e depois removida com amor. Devo me lembrar que isso \u00e9 oferecido a partir de um ponto de refer\u00eancia totalmente centrado. Parte da educa\u00e7\u00e3o das autoridades gerais em quest\u00f5es LGBTQ \u00e9 ouvir os gritos dos marginalizados e ent\u00e3o fazer uma corre\u00e7\u00e3o de curso nas pol\u00edticas que eles consideram prejudiciais quando tentam ser \u00fateis.<\/p>\n<p>Considerando o tratamento dado aos membros LGBTQ na igreja nos \u00faltimos 50 anos, este \u00e9 apenas mais um desfile constante de missivas e pol\u00edticas da igreja que mudam ano ap\u00f3s ano conforme os estere\u00f3tipos s\u00e3o apagados e a popula\u00e7\u00e3o em geral \u00e9 educada sobre as quest\u00f5es LGBTQ +.<\/p>\n<p>Depois que a pol\u00edtica foi rescindida em 4 de abril de 2019, Afirma\u00e7\u00e3o: M\u00f3rmons, fam\u00edlias e amigos LGBTQ <a href=\"https:\/\/affirmation.org\/pt\/tag\/nov-15-policy-gay-families-reversal\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">coletou as hist\u00f3rias de nossa comunidade<\/a> para que n\u00e3o fosse esquecido como era a vida sob a ap\u00f3lice. Ofereceu um lugar para marcar nosso luto \u00e0 medida que avan\u00e7\u00e1vamos em dire\u00e7\u00e3o \u00e0 cura.<\/p>\n<p>Quando leio essas hist\u00f3rias de vida sob a pol\u00edtica de m\u00f3rmons LGBTQ, n\u00e3o vejo os frutos do amor. A pol\u00edtica pode ter sido feita por preocupa\u00e7\u00e3o, medo, gerenciamento de um desconhecido ou como uma resposta \u00e0 decis\u00e3o de Obergefell de 2015, mas eu n\u00e3o vejo nem sinto amor na pol\u00edtica.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Huffington Post:<\/strong> O que voc\u00ea acha do racioc\u00ednio de Nelson para as mudan\u00e7as de pol\u00edtica? (Ele diz que estavam tentando \u201creduzir o atrito entre pais gays ou l\u00e9sbicas e seus filhos\u201d e ent\u00e3o viram que isso estava causando dor de cabe\u00e7a para as pessoas, ent\u00e3o oraram pedindo a orienta\u00e7\u00e3o do Senhor e ajustaram a pol\u00edtica em 2019). Voc\u00ea acha que este \u00e9 um sinal de que os l\u00edderes da igreja entendem a dor que a pol\u00edtica causou aos m\u00f3rmons LGBTQ?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Eu:<\/strong> As raz\u00f5es e preocupa\u00e7\u00f5es que ele declarou s\u00e3o v\u00e1lidas, no entanto, quando se tratou de resolver tais quest\u00f5es por meio de pol\u00edticas e governan\u00e7a, eles simplesmente n\u00e3o tiveram os recursos educacionais para tomar uma decis\u00e3o totalmente informada sobre o cuidado pastoral dos M\u00f3rmons LGBTQ e suas fam\u00edlias.<\/p>\n<p>Esse processo n\u00e3o \u00e9 exclusivo de A Igreja de Jesus Cristo dos Santos dos \u00daltimos Dias. \u00c9 parte de um padr\u00e3o mais amplo de como indiv\u00edduos e institui\u00e7\u00f5es centrados na heterossexualidade tomam decis\u00f5es com rela\u00e7\u00e3o \u00e0s pessoas LGBTQ em suas vidas.<\/p>\n<p>Sim, depois de ouvir sobre a dor de cabe\u00e7a e a rejei\u00e7\u00e3o da pol\u00edtica de 5 de novembro, eles fizeram mudan\u00e7as significativas. No entanto, um dos pontos fracos dessa gest\u00e3o \u201clinha sobre linha, preceito sobre preceito\u201d de membros LGBTQ e suas fam\u00edlias \u00e9 que ela cria um per\u00edodo de transi\u00e7\u00e3o vulner\u00e1vel entre as mudan\u00e7as. Aqueles que est\u00e3o presos neste per\u00edodo de transi\u00e7\u00e3o enquanto os irm\u00e3os resolvem as coisas t\u00eam a possibilidade cont\u00ednua e real de trauma, rejei\u00e7\u00e3o e sofrimento enquanto est\u00e3o na interse\u00e7\u00e3o de sua f\u00e9. \u00c9 por isso que organiza\u00e7\u00f5es lideradas por LGBTQ, como a Affirmation, s\u00e3o t\u00e3o necess\u00e1rias para apoiar nossos colegas LGBTQ durante tais mudan\u00e7as.<\/p>\n<p>Eu acho que isso \u00e9 um sinal de que os l\u00edderes da igreja entendem a dor que a pol\u00edtica causou aos m\u00f3rmons LGBTQ? Acho que isso \u00e9 um sinal de que as pol\u00edticas da autoridade geral dependem totalmente de sua educa\u00e7\u00e3o e compreens\u00e3o dos indiv\u00edduos LGBTQ e suas fam\u00edlias.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Huffington Post:<\/strong> No final das contas, voc\u00ea acha que este discurso do Presidente Nelson ajudar\u00e1 adolescentes queer, ou casais queer e seus filhos, a se sentirem mais bem-vindos na igreja? Isso ajudar\u00e1 a encorajar os membros queer que deixaram a igreja a voltar?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Eu:<\/strong> N\u00e3o. E eu n\u00e3o acho que essa era a mensagem pretendida nesta palestra. Isso foi mais uma reflex\u00e3o para membros e l\u00edderes tentarem entender o que eles fizeram com seus irm\u00e3os LGBTQ. Existem meios mais eficazes necess\u00e1rios para tornar a igreja mais segura para membros queer. Meus pensamentos sobre esse assunto est\u00e3o aqui em <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sltrib.com\/opinion\/commentary\/2019\/08\/25\/nathan-kitchen-rainbow\/?fbclid=IwAR3sdvyVATPzUPiIbCpScI0SFOMB1E8qOxtz47-dK9iWqmFIaPY3hj4xieg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">este editorial do Salt Lake Tribune<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Huffington Post:<\/strong> Estou percebendo que, em abril, muitas pessoas estavam se perguntando se a igreja algum dia se desculparia oficialmente pela pol\u00edtica de 2015. Voc\u00ea considera este discurso - a men\u00e7\u00e3o de \u201cdor no cora\u00e7\u00e3o\u201d e choro - um pedido de desculpas? Se n\u00e3o, voc\u00ea acha que um pedido de desculpas \u00e9 necess\u00e1rio?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Eu:<\/strong> N\u00e3o, isso n\u00e3o era um pedido de desculpas. A comunidade LGBTQ M\u00f3rmon acredita plenamente no Presidente Oaks quando ele diz: \u201cEu sei que <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.sltrib.com\/article.php?id=2108746&amp;itype=CMSID\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a hist\u00f3ria da igreja n\u00e3o \u00e9 pedir desculpas ou dar-lhes<\/a>, \u201dOaks disse em uma entrevista. \u201c\u00c0s vezes, olhamos para tr\u00e1s e dizemos: &#039;Talvez isso seja contraproducente para o que desejamos alcan\u00e7ar&#039;, mas olhamos para frente e n\u00e3o para tr\u00e1s.\u201d A igreja n\u00e3o \u201cpede desculpas\u201d, disse ele, \u201ce n\u00f3s n\u00e3o as damos\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Saberemos um pedido de desculpas quando ouvirmos um. No entanto, como uma comunidade, <a href=\"https:\/\/affirmation.org\/pt\/afirmacao-presidente-para-a-besta-diaria-podemos-avancar-pessoalmente-independentemente-do-que-a-igreja-diz\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">n\u00e3o exigimos um pedido de desculpas necess\u00e1rio para perdoar, seguir em frente e curar<\/a>. Isso est\u00e1 ao nosso alcance e n\u00e3o seremos mantidos cativos de nossa felicidade e crescimento pessoal esperando por um.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Aqueles que est\u00e3o presos neste per\u00edodo de transi\u00e7\u00e3o enquanto os Irm\u00e3os resolvem as coisas t\u00eam a possibilidade cont\u00ednua e real de trauma, rejei\u00e7\u00e3o e sofrimento enquanto est\u00e3o na interse\u00e7\u00e3o de sua f\u00e9. \u00c9 por isso que organiza\u00e7\u00f5es lideradas por LGBTQ, como a Affirmation, s\u00e3o t\u00e3o necess\u00e1rias para apoiar nossos colegas LGBTQ durante tais mudan\u00e7as.<\/p>","protected":false},"author":25,"featured_media":30457,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_piecal_is_recurring":false,"_piecal_recurring_interval":1,"_piecal_recurring_frequency":"","_piecal_recurring_exact_position":false,"_piecal_recurring_end":"","_piecal_color":"","_piecal_text_color":"","_piecal_global_color_master":false,"_piecal_rsets":"[]","_piecal_is_event":false,"_piecal_start_date":"","_piecal_end_date":"","_piecal_is_allday":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1849],"tags":[1510,70,270,3003,1645,1063,2655,2234],"newsletters":[],"class_list":["post-30451","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-blog","tag-brigham-young-university","tag-byu","tag-devotional","tag-huffington-post","tag-nathan-kitchen","tag-november-2015-policy","tag-nov-15-policy-gay-families-reversal","tag-russell-m-nelson-3"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.0 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>My Full Huffington Post Interview Following President Nelson&#039;s BYU Devotional<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Those caught in this transition period as the Brethren work things out have the continued and real possibility of trauma at the intersection of their Faith.\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/affirmation.org\/pt\/my-full-huffington-post-entrevista-seguinte-presidente-nelsons-byu-devocional\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"pt_BR\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"My Full Huffington Post Interview Following President Nelson&#039;s BYU Devotional\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Those caught in this transition period as the Brethren work things out have the continued and real possibility of trauma at the intersection of their Faith.\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/affirmation.org\/pt\/my-full-huffington-post-entrevista-seguinte-presidente-nelsons-byu-devocional\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Affirmation: LGBTQ Mormons, Families &amp; 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